Comments on: Techniques for dealing with Phase http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/ Pro Audio news, nonsense and occasional debauchery Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:36:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-534 Jon Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:09:00 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-534 Hey Steve and any other Logic user. I haven't looked for the function in Logic until now. There's 2 ways that I can find (in Logic Pro 9). 1 - double click a clip to open the sample editor, go to function, Invert. The waveform will flip upside down. 2 - on the mixer: Inserts, Utility, Gain, you'll see the mislabeled button right there. :) Trying to demonstrate this article in anything other than PT I'd be so lost! Hey Steve and any other Logic user.

I haven’t looked for the function in Logic until now.
There’s 2 ways that I can find (in Logic Pro 9).
1 – double click a clip to open the sample editor, go to function, Invert. The waveform will flip upside down.
2 – on the mixer: Inserts, Utility, Gain, you’ll see the mislabeled button right there. :)

Trying to demonstrate this article in anything other than PT I’d be so lost!

]]> By: Steve http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-533 Steve Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:43:32 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-533 That is cool.. I am a Logic user not a Protools one ;-) I meant a phase switch button.. But you answered anyway ;-) (ha ha ha.. I don't even know what the plug in looks like.. But others will we assume! ) Steve That is cool.. I am a Logic user not a Protools one ;-)
I meant a phase switch button.. But you answered anyway ;-)

(ha ha ha.. I don’t even know what the plug in looks like.. But others will we assume! )

Steve

]]> By: Jon http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-532 Jon Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:57:02 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-532 C'mon now Steve. I can't point out the "phase button," there's no such thing! There is a polarity button though, it looks like " Ø ". In each DAW you'll find it in various places, often the mixer channels, in Pro Tools it's in many of the plugins. C’mon now Steve.
I can’t point out the “phase button,” there’s no such thing!

There is a polarity button though, it looks like ” Ø “.
In each DAW you’ll find it in various places, often the mixer channels, in Pro Tools it’s in many of the plugins.

]]> By: Steve http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-531 Steve Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:14:58 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-531 Great article Jon. I feel as though I have g heard this somewhere before Just seems familiar to me... Wish you had put a screen shot of the plug in's you used and showed whoch is teh phase button etc for those of us that 1/ don't know, 2/ are not protools users. 3 are just thick ;-) Great article Jon.
I feel as though I have g heard this somewhere before Just seems familiar to me…

Wish you had put a screen shot of the plug in’s you used and showed whoch is teh phase button etc for those of us that
1/ don’t know,
2/ are not protools users.
3 are just thick ;-)

]]> By: Sti http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-530 Sti Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:58:00 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-530 I've covered alot of web realestate to find a clear and useful explanation of phase and how to deal with it. This is the best explanation I've come across. Many thanks ! I’ve covered alot of web realestate to find a clear and useful explanation of phase and how to deal with it. This is the best explanation I’ve come across. Many thanks !

]]> By: lightsweetcrude http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-529 lightsweetcrude Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:28:35 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-529 Great article. This is stuff people who want to get serious about recording (or audio in general) must know. Listening samples are a great bonus! That being said, there are many instances in the real world of recording where the most phase coherent way of doing things is not necessarily always going to be the best, or right way of doing things. As you said, it is rare that things are 0° or 180°, most things reside in between, and understanding the (often necessary) compromises is important. Many microphone techniques often offer either a wide and wonderful stereo image or a phase-coherent one... each comes at the cost of the other. It's understanding the choices you are making and the implications of those choices that is important. Just my $0.02... Thanks! ;+) Great article. This is stuff people who want to get serious about recording (or audio in general) must know. Listening samples are a great bonus!
That being said, there are many instances in the real world of recording where the most phase coherent way of doing things is not necessarily always going to be the best, or right way of doing things. As you said, it is rare that things are 0° or 180°, most things reside in between, and understanding the (often necessary) compromises is important. Many microphone techniques often offer either a wide and wonderful stereo image or a phase-coherent one… each comes at the cost of the other. It’s understanding the choices you are making and the implications of those choices
that is important.

Just my $0.02… Thanks! ;+)

]]> By: Joe Gilder http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-528 Joe Gilder Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:04:46 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-528 Great article, Jon! It's one thing to explain phase (which you did very well), but then you show concrete was to solve phase issues. That's really helpful! I've not tried flipping the polarity on the 2nd microphone to find a good placement. Great tip! Great article, Jon! It’s one thing to explain phase (which you did very well), but then you show concrete was to solve phase issues. That’s really helpful! I’ve not tried flipping the polarity on the 2nd microphone to find a good placement. Great tip!

]]> By: Jay Scar http://audiogeekzine.com/2009/07/techniques-for-dealing-with-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Jay Scar Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:43:58 +0000 http://www.audiogeekzine.com/?p=1177#comment-527 Hey Jon, Great article on phase. A ton of people know that phase issues can hurt them, but not much about what they are actually trying to avoid. The wave mechanics really aren't too difficult to understand once you get back to basics and your guide did a great job in explaining that as well as giving examples. I recorded an acoustic track yesterday using 1 mic and the guitar pickup DI'd. I found that if I used the time adjuster plug to shift one of the tracks, I could get a nice stereo effect without much subtraction going on. Hey Jon,
Great article on phase. A ton of people know that phase issues can hurt them, but not much about what they are actually trying to avoid. The wave mechanics really aren’t too difficult to understand once you get back to basics and your guide did a great job in explaining that as well as giving examples. I recorded an acoustic track yesterday using 1 mic and the guitar pickup DI’d. I found that if I used the time adjuster plug to shift one of the tracks, I could get a nice stereo effect without much subtraction going on.

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